obviously president obama it will be his 8th one-on-one presidential debate. it will be governor romney's first presidential debate. with the office of the president behind him and being one of the most gifted speakers we know i'm sure it will be hard to out shine him but governor romney will come and talk about his plans. bill: i remember a yore ago talking to governor romney and he was talking about debate number one and now it is here. does the campaign have a sense that they must score very well tonight in order to turn the poll number that i just mentioned around, down 3 points in that "wall street journal" number? >> we have a little over a month to go and every debate and every day honestly is important between now and then, and communicating our message of governor romney's plans to get this country back on track. so that is going to be really his focus tonight. bill: and tkroe a saul thank you for your time, and to ben labolt before you thanks to him as well. we are all waiting for it tonight in denver. than that you. jamie: a new columnist hammering